with that is laurie montgomery, the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our view whaeers what you ran through. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of $137,000. you see the numbers here first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the cliff, this is this third scenario here, the middle class couple sees their taxes go up by $8,000. laurie, is the viewer -- the couple, this couple here, this middle class couple gets its best deal from the democrats plan, correct? >> that's right. i mean, most people are going to get a better deal from the democratic plan if you're under $250,000 because the t